If I had found these sites almost 3 years ago, this blog would’ve never been “borne”
I would’ve understood & been able to prepare for the crapstorm that my life would become. Unfortunately I have found out that no matter what I would’ve done I was still going to get railroaded but I still would’ve had a better arsenal
Here is one page from caught.net & if you are involved in ANY type of litigation or power struggle you need to read it all.
This Site Came Into Being And Exists Today Because Someone Survived Legal Abuse Syndrome
“I became depressed, physically ill and seriously suicidal after experiencing the insanity of litigation. I lost my home and was sent to the street with nothing but the clothes on my back. Literally everything I owned was gone for several years. I fought my fight to points of exhaustion where all I could do was stare into space. Friends had left; I was emotionally isolated and normal living activities were no longer normal. Rage doesn’t come close to describing the feelings I lived with for years. Even this is far from the full story of how bad it got.” — The Founder Of Caught.net and The Pro Se Way
A couple of points from the Founder of these websites who knows all too well how badly one can be affected by Legal Abuse:
Many times litigation is combined with changes in life that, in and of themselves, can cause stress, depression or worse. Add the expense, injustice and insanity of the legal system and you double the problems.
Compound the above with the fact that many times help for the above is either non-existent, unaffordable, ineffective or, at best, hard to find. Add to that the fact most feel that the wrongs can never be made right and the war will never end And the result is a VERY SERIOUS situation that can break just about anybody. Know this – you will be changed. Most importantly, we want you to know:
RECOVERY IS NECESSARY AND POSSIBLE
When you finally climb out of the wreckage, assuming you do, you will be much wiser and stronger in many ways. You will be well equipped to help others in the same situation. Some of the valuable advice I received during this 10+ year crisis is: Choose your battles carefully. Get treatment…FAST. Don’t be afraid to take medications whether for the body or the mind. Don’t be afraid to acknowledge your problems may have started with, or evolved into, what is classified today as a mental problem or problems. Stop expecting people to be as outraged as you are. Try to find meaning, purpose or projects that don’t involve the fight. Find SOME way to relax and enjoy yourself. Consider spiritual based assistance, solutions or activities. Ask for help! You probably need something you don’t think or know you need. Remember – ALL WARS END! Your friends and family have left, not because they are necessarily bad, but because you have become too much of a weight for them to carry. For God’s sake, do some exercise to help you unwind! I never received justice in any substantive way. Oh, there was a thing here or there that gave me small smidgens of justice. But some points need to be made here:
Part of my recovery was accepting I would not see the justice I expected and deserved according to our Constitution.
Part of my recovery was realizing that this country has, in many ways, written off our Constitution and rights of redress.
Part of my recovery was accepting that corrupt, lying, thieving, completely callous people remain in positions of power without correction.
Part of my recovery was realizing that my wrongdoers would absolutely dread having to litigate anything with me again because I gave them a serious run for their money.
Part of my recovery was realizing I cost my wrongdoers a LOT of money – much more than they thought they would ever spend given the fight I gave them.
Part of my recovery is knowing that hundreds of people a day are using this site for various reasons and are helped or informed by it.
Part of my recovery was deciding I was going to find a way to live and achieve some degree of enjoyment out of life despite my knowledge of the unbelievable corruption of the American system that I have knowledge of.
Part of my recovery was accepting I can be legally right and be rejected by a corrupt system. We are no longer a country of laws, we are a country where laws are “creatively interpreted”.
Part of my recovery was realizing that ALL OF US tend towards abuse of power when we get it. The one most likely to abuse power is the one who thinks they are above doing so. It takes a short time to learn to exercise power, but a lifetime to learn how to avoid abusing it. That is true for YOU, ME and ALL current abusers of power. If you don’t fully comprehend that you will go from being abused to being an abuser.
A large part of my recovery was, and sometimes still is, bleeding. Bleeding mentally and emotionally and recovering physically…and I might add slowly. Some call it bleeding, others venting, processing, dealing with things or coming to terms with things. Whatever you call it, it will take time.
A word of advice for those affected and infected by legal abuses: During the usually lengthy litigation process we tend to meet and perhaps befriend a lot of angry people on some level. Many turn into conspiracy buffs or people that are ANTI this and that thinking they have the system, conspiracies or ‘the plan’ all figured out. For many this becomes feeding on their anger in a negative way instead of recovering from it. Consider other friends. There comes a time when you need to climb out of the fox hole and be around people that aren’t at war.
Do people still find justice in our system? Sure, it happens. More than not your only ‘justice’ will be the fact you can cost your wrongdoer a fortune in time and money spent fighting you, especially if you are Pro Se. Public embarrassment and exposure also affects wrongdoers. Many times the system won’t let you win, but you can still fight. If enough people fought, wrongs would still be righted even with a system as corrupted as ours. Wrongdoers would stop committing wrong only because of the repeated cost of litigation, public exposure and embarrassment. Also don’t forget there are other, civil, legal and lawful ways to go after wrongdoers via various forms of protests.
I am NOT suggesting we resign ourselves to a country not governed by the Constitution the way it is supposed to be. I am saying:
You Must Recover For Your Sake And The Sake Of Your Loved Ones
And NOT for that reason only. You must recover because there is not enough people that know what is really going on. Not enough people know how corrupt the system has become.
To All Those Who Have Or Are Experiencing Legal Abuses I Want To Say: Many times the reason and purpose for events in our life initially escapes us, but I am certain we can find reason and purpose in everything that happens!
To all those in positions of power, the judges, lawyers, prosecutors, police and whoever else, I and untold numbers of Americans would like to tell you this: We Want To Live With Justice, Not Spend Our Lives Pursuing It!
Litigation Can Leave A Person Seriously Damaged
In litigation, particularly protracted litigation, lives can be devastated, life savings wiped out, homes and families ruined and God only knows what else. Additionally many people, raised to believe in this country, will experience corruption in our legal system with judges, lawyers, prosecutors, police and sometimes even court staff that is shocking beyond belief. Attempts to get the corruption addressed or even recognized by authorities are met with deaf ears and complete ambivalence.
Black Becomes White, Up Becomes Down, Wrong Becomes Right And No One Cares
The degree of insanity one can run into with litigation is beyond description. Litigation can leave you feeling like a person without a country, alone, filled with rage beyond words, depressed and even suicidal, homicidal or both. It can go on for years and you will wonder if you will ever feel normal again. You will wonder if you can ever feel good about your Country again. You can also get hysterical or physically ill just thinking about and reliving the legal abuse nightmare.
So I had a term pop into my head, I was thinking about using it for my Appellate court brief but generally it is a term used for us crazy folks who want a fair shake at justice…
VEXATIOUS LITIGATION: Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender. A single action, even a frivolous one, is usually not enough to raise a litigant to the level of being declared vexatious. Repeated and severe instances by a single lawyer or firm can result in eventual disbarment. Some jurisdictions have a list of vexatious litigants: people who have repeatedly abused the legal system. Because lawyers could be disbarred for participating in the abuse, vexatious litigants are often unable to retain legal counsel, and such litigants therefore represent themselves in court. Those on the list are usually either forbidden from any further legal action or are required to obtain prior permission from a senior judge before taking any legal action. The process by which a person is added to the list varies among jurisdictions. In liberal democratic jurisdictions, declaring someone a vexatious litigant is considered to be a serious measure and rarely occurs, as judges and officials are reluctant to curtail a person’s access to the courts.
According to Wikipedia we who represent ourselves or at least try to once we understand that our usually over~worked public defenders are NOT going to represent our best interests we are bat shit crazy for fighting back
Oh but it gets even better ~ According to Mark Levy MD blah blah blah we have an entire host of mental disorders for expecting justice
By Mark I. Levy MD, DLFAPA
Vexatious litigants are individuals who burden the judicial process by repeatedly filing causes of action that are ultimately found to be without merit. (Because we are trying to stand up for ourselves) Despite the considerable cost to the judicial system (and ultimately to society) little has been written about vexatious litigation and less has been done to understand the psychological motivations for vexatious litigation in order to better manage the problem. This is partly because in a constitutional democracy everyone is deemed to be “entitled to his (or her) day in court.” The federal and state constitutions within the United States jealously protect citizens’ right to submit their grievances to our judicial systems in order to resolve civil disputes in a timely and equitable manner. (Yep it is called our “Constitutional Rights”) At the same time, the Court, already overburdened with the shear volume of litigation, is charged the responsibility to protect the integrity of our judicial system from abuse by a very small but very troublesome minority of litigants. (Or the few who do realize they have rights & are willing to stand up for themselves)
Since vexatious litigants frequently represent themselves in propria persona, at least during some of the actions that they attempt to litigate, and since the judiciary has a responsibility to be more accommodating and helpful to such litigants who are not represented by licensed counsel, (Someone definitely forgot to tell the judge in my case this one little fact) there Court is faced with a complex dilemma once it becomes apparent that a “pro per” litigant is in fact vexatious.
Only recently, however, have forensic psychiatrists begun to examine the motivations and possible psychopathology driving the litigious behavior of this individuals. The Courts’ need to more effectively manage and legislatures’ to more effectively regulate individuals who exhibit this problematical behavior.(In other words they need to be able to label any pro se litigants as mentally deranged so they can lock them up chemaically restrain them & then ridicule them for being good sheeple) In order to assist the judiciary (as well as the legal profession) to more easily recognize the characteristics individuals fitting this profile, forensic psychiatrists and psychologists need to study and understand more fully the dynamics and motivations for this socially costly and troublesome behavior. This paper is an attempt to examine this infrequently explored terrain.
A triad of behavioral characteristics are frequently demonstrated by vexatious litigants:
1. A history of changing counsel more than once, coupled with at least one episode of representing themselves in Court in propria persona. Not surprisingly, competent counsel generally find a means to ethically remove themselves from the case after a period of poor client control. Sooner or later, usually after a time of appearing “pro per,” these litigants find counsel who more or less identify with their client, presumably for reasons having to do with their own personal psychology. (Now he wants us to believe that an attorney that will actually represent thier client is ALSO crazy) The result of this is an attorney-client dyad that is driven by a mission. No client control exists nor is it even recognized by plaintiff’s counsel as lacking. Hence no settlement can ever occur.
2. Evidence of narcissistic and paranoid personality traits, obtained from psychiatric examination and psychological testing. These traits are generally manifested by attitudes expressed verbally or behaviorally (e.g., through physical appearance) conveying that the individual considers himself to be an exception, i.e., that the normal rules of behavioral conduct within a judicial process to which all litigants are expected to submit uniquely do not apply to him because he is allegedly special, having suffered abuse, humiliation and/or victimization unduly at the hands of alleged perpetrators, including judges, thereby entitling the vexatious litigant to exceptional status and accommodation by the Court. Not infrequently, although the source of alleged abuse is initially the defendant in a civil action, eventually the Court itself is drawn into this “dance” and is experienced from a paranoid perspective by the litigant, as itself also an abuser. Invariably, this is due to the Court attempting to impose a modicum of decorum on behavior of the litigant by invoking normal procedural requirements. As a result of this transformation of the Court, in the litigant’s mind, from arbitrator to oppressor, the Court’s responses may eventually be perceived as more persecutory and humiliating than was the alleged conduct of the original defendant.
3. A refusal to settle disputes through customary procedural channels of negotiation and even traditional litigation. These individuals wish to have their alleged suffering, humiliation and victimization witnessed on the stage of litigation. Their common fantasy is that unspecified “others” (the jury, initially the Court itself) will sympathize with suffering and offer some sort of illusory vindication and redemption. Consequently, not only do they characteristically refuse to accept negative judicial decisions, sometimes they will reject decisions in their own favor, if they believe that acceptance will terminate the litigation and their chances to obtain the imagined vindication. (This just proves that this man is an idiot, anyone who has actually gained any type of justice usually runs for the hills & screams victory, but mostly they just run!) Although this may superficially appear to be perverse, it is in fact a direct product of their peculiar motivation to litigate in the first place, i.e., to have their alleged victimization witnessed, not to resolve conflict. Of course, such motivation leads to an endless quest because no degree of witnessing and acknowledgment of their pain can ever approach the unconditional love for which they long and thus “restore” the wounded narcissism and damaged self esteem of these individuals. If permitted to do so, they will attempt to appeal trial court decisions to the highest judicial levels. (Has anyone actually evaluated this man’s mental health !!!)
Here are the links to caught.net & the Pro Se Way